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No more conditions to condition the arising of every thing

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1:08:18 [Jonothan] For the enlightened being, the sotapanna, who has no more wrong view of self, there is still the idea of body and arms and legs. [A. Sujin] What is something? [J] An idea. [Su] No reality? What things are something? [J] Just citta thinks of something. [Su] Yes, we can say that, but there must be a reality at that moment as well: in life there seems to be so many things, but actually there are only different realities, not known as they are, as not self or anything. We use the word self and it depends on the understanding of its meaning, but when we use words just in ordinary [sense] like "what is something?", what does it mean, "something"? [J] In ordinary conversation it refers to conventional objects, things. [Su] No understanding that it's a moment of a reality, right? Only the idea, from birth, about this and that. Always "thing" and "something", all the time, is that right? From birth. [J] Yes, fro