Dhamma with Ajahn Sujin

(Excerpt from the EN-CN Dhamma discussion with Ajahn Sujin on Zoom - Wed Mar 8th 2023 am) 00:00 - Understanding the subtlety of all realities right now [A. Sujin] So, is there interest now? [Vincent] There's interest to understand the Teachings. [A. Sujin] And other kinds of interest? [Vincent] There's interest to improve my English. [A. Sujin] That's why even interest itself is so very subtle because it's so subtle, that's why the Buddha taught about how many cittas arise with interest and how many cittas do not arise with interest, unknown. That's why the understanding of the interest itself is so far because there are so many degrees of interest. As much as we can know some level of interest is that: I'm not interested in such and such, but in truth there is interest with many cittas before saying those words. Can there be the understanding of the subtlety of all realities right now: to not underestimate [them] or careless to understand