Dhamma with Ajahn Sujin

[Vincent] When we say feeling is a disease, it's the root because it's the root for disease, or any other khandhas, could you talk more about this? [A. Sujin] I think that we just talk about everything to understand the word and the term, but not understanding the absolute truth. For example, while one is having food or after having food, sometimes there can be some uneasy feeling too, is that right? and we think that that very moment it's uneasy and it's unpleasant, the bodily feeling. We just know that, but what about the reality which is there? Today, taking food has been very smooth, but sometimes it's not like that at all, so what is there? It's a reality, no matter we call it disease or vayo-dhatu, the wind element, or whatever, but it shows up as: it is just that, it has its characteristic, not as usual after eating or while eating. All realities are there, unknown until the Buddha taught about them, each one as it is, different one. We can expla

[Leena] We understand that it's the dhammas which are arising, it's all conditioned, that it's not in our hands and this is possibly because of our kamma that conditioning is so powerful and the conditions are arising causing certain things to be present, but when we say that dhammas are non-self, they are not because of... this is not under our control, isn't it just at intellectual level? So, suppose one really wants to penetrate kamma and one is not conditioned to understand it, the conditions are not right, he cannot actually penetrate the dhamma, he cannot actually understand dhamma, then he cannot actually progress further and that possibly depends on his kamma, so, where does the viriya fit into it? [A. Sujin] It seems like there is some understanding while we say about anything, like dhamma and viriya and so on, but what did the Buddha say about that? Can we understand the meaning of the words we say? Or, we can think [it] up in our own way, or listen t