Vayo-dhatu, without body-sense nothing could appear as moving

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[Jotika] So Ajahn, there is the feeling of the heart beating...

[A. Sujin] Execuse me, what [is that] you take for heart beating? Is there something that you take for heart beating?

[Jotika] The movement in the body...

[A. Sujin] There must be a rupa, right? It cannot experience, but it's soft or hard. So, when it moves, at that moment, is it real that which moves? So, what is the beating, again? Because when you talk about that which moves there must be a reality, right? If it's not there how can there be the idea that it moves? So, there must be a reality and that['s what] moves, no one and no thing at all, no heart because it's only the moving, that which moves. And that which moves cannot experience anything, it moves when it appears and when there's no moving the moving does not appear, the other reality appears, when you touch it is hard, but when it moves, without that which impinges on the body base, can it appear as something moving? Or, where is the moving? Not at the eye or can it be at the eye? Depending on its characteristic that it moves, no matter when it arises, today, yesterday, here and there, it moves, it's a reality which moves. And that's what we say it's a dhatu, element, vayo-dhatu

[Jotika] Is heartbeat that is called wind element?

[A. Sujin] Yes, we call it wind but it's not like the wind that we know, which blows, but it's that which moves. Hardness cannot move, right? So, the moving is real, it's that which moves, it's different from hardness and softness or temperature. So, it's just a reality, one of the primary rupas, of the four elements, hardness is one and temperature is [another] one and that which appear holding the rupas together (apo dhatu/cohesion) does not appear at all because it doesn't touch the sense-door, the body-sense. Whatever can touch the body-senses: that which is hard or soft, heat or cold and that which moves too, but when it's not the moving moment it's not that reality, but it's hard or hot, by touching. If there was no body-sense nothing could appear as moving at all.

So there can be the understanding of the reality which moves, can citta move? Can cetasikas move? The reality which doesn't have shape and form, smell or hardness or softness at all, it's just the pure reality, absolutely arising and just experiencing an object right now, it doesn't have any form or shape, it's not hard or soft at all, it's just that which experience an object. It does not move, it's not hard, it's not soft... different realities.

Nothing can be taken for self or thing at all because it's only there when it's conditioned and then gone instantly, but there can be condition for whatever to arise again, to appear as moving or hardness or heat or seeing or touching. We learn to understand just one moment at a time of that which is there by conditions, no more when it's gone, never to return in samsara, only once in the circle of birth and death, it's now at this moment, never comes back at all, never arises again.

No matter moving and we take it for the heart moving, but where's the heart, and is it now moving? Not at all. So, what moves is not the heart or whatever we take [for] it, but it's a reality which moves otherwise nothing could move at all, but there must be a reality which moves, pressure.