Nāma and rūpa, understanding the characteristic which we are used to talk about
Robert: Ajahn, talking about the object appearing clearly and relating to what I was going to say, I saw a comment recently on the Tīka to the Visuddhimagga and it might be interesting, and it says that a dhamma, having its own nature as sabhāva is profound, is gambhīra, but a paññatti is not, and I think it means that concepts are... We sort of know concepts, like tables chairs and people, but very hard to know, the actual dhammas, the realities. And I think that, as you're saying, it's all about pañña. And obviously only when a Buddha arises can that sort of understanding of realities be known. A. Sujin: That's why when there is the understanding of the absolute truth, one can see that at moment of knowing something as plate and food and so on, it's the moment of thinking with memory or sañña. That's why there can be the moment of understanding sañña even right now, intellectually, that it has to be there at any moment with citta, no matter what citta ex...