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Four upada (derived) rupas, wherever there are the four maha-bhuta

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(Excerpt from the Dhamma discussion with Ajahn Sujin and Nepali students in Bkk on Tue Apr 23rd 2024 |Rupa|part 2|) Audio file: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AujD6qLjtvuOjw-T6mXZ8benjHme must have at least the four rupas, the main four, and another four, derived from those which are there. There must be the main ones, no matter what is there, water or heat or whatever, in every rupa. So when we talk about water, it's just what we take for that. But in truth, very tiny, we can break up everything into the tiniest particle. There must be at least these rupas, main ones, four main rupas, and derived rupas, another four. That's why in an atom or one particle, the tiniest one, there are eight rupas. The four main and the other four, arising together because unbreakable, indivisible rupa, all eight together, but the main ones must be the four primary rupas. So how many rupas are there? Even it's just the smallest, tiniest particle, how many rupas are there? There must be the four ma

The four mahabhuta (primary) rupas - without these nothing can arise

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(Excerpt from the Dhamma discussion with Ajahn Sujin and Nepali students in Bkk on Tue Apr 23rd 2024 |Rupa|part 1|) Audio file: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AujD6qLjtvuOjw6T6mXZ8benjHme Pathavi, hardness, when it's touched it cannot be the table That's why we learn Dhamma, that's why we have to understand that each word cannot be changed. So, what is hardness? It's hard. What is it? We have learned that there are two kinds of reality, one can experience the object, nama-dhamma. And the other one cannot experience it all, rupa. So, what is rupa again? Is there rupa? Yes, there is rupa, but what is rupa? Because rupa is the reality which cannot experience any object at all. Whatever cannot experience. Can it be you? So, can hardness experience anything? So, it's rupa, hardness is just one rupa. It cannot be changed, it's not sweet. So, we learn to understand rupa, one by one. There is hardness, what else? That's why we learn about the ultimate truth, the absolute